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The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Geoff M on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:23 pm

I went into Brisbane CBD yesterday with the X-E1. Some strange things happening with Auto ISO settings, a little erratic perhaps? I had the camera set to AUTO 6400 (because you can :D ) and shooting in AE mode. I can understand the settings used for 'The Gallery' and 'The Writer' but 'The Restaurant' settings seem strange. I would have thought that the shutter speed would go much lower before pushing the ISO up to 800?

I cant find in the Fuji menu, where the user can specify the minimum shutter speed before the ISO is pushed, as you can with the Nikon system.

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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby chrisk on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:28 pm

love the first 2 geoff. they are fantastic !

as for the iso setting; unfortuantely this is a fuji issue. erratic is too nice a word, its bloody retarded. and there is no ability to set a minimum shutter speed for auto iso either.
my workaround is that i shoot in manual with auto iso on. its far more reliable like that but you just have to be careful about changing conditions. aternately, i shoot with it it shutter priority and again, it seems to be more logical than in aperture priority which was all over the place.
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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Geoff M on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:01 pm

Thanks Chris.

Maybe a firmware update will address the short sighted ISO issue? There was supposed to be a firmware update released in the the past few days, but it never happened.
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Postby chrisk on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:39 pm

I read somewhere it was unlikely to be addressed via firmware as it would need to be a new menu option as opposed to tweaking an existing setting. Don't know how true that is. I have yet to read any reviews of whether the x100s has the minimum shutter option.

I also don't like the fact you can't assign the function button to metering. That is again a very shortsighted and illogical decision.
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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Matt. K on Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:48 pm

Despite your problems with the auto ISO....these images are as fine as any I have seen from a DSLR....and this from a small body camera. The camera and the lens have delivered IQ that is good enough to meet most professional needs. The Fuji is a damned fine camera.
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Postby zafra52 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:29 pm

Very nice shots. I like the 2nd best.
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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby aim54x on Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:30 am

:agree: but it could do with a closer crop
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Postby Remorhaz on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:06 am

aim54x wrote::agree: but it could do with a closer crop


I double agree :)
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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby gstark on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:33 am

Remorhaz wrote:
aim54x wrote::agree: but it could do with a closer crop


I double agree :)


I'm going to go the other way.

Writing is often a lonely task, and often done by one person, on their own. A wider viewpoint might help to emphasise this aspect.
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Postby Geoff M on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:01 pm

I did try other tighter crops following the suggestions, but I am not happy with the outcome and prefer the image 'as is'. Thanks for the comments and thoughts though.
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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby photohiker on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:31 pm

I'm liking the writer best of these. Captures the detachment and involvement nicely.

Auto ISO might be fixed, or might not. It's a bit strange because the X100 has the adjustable settings but they left it off the interchangeable lens cameras. Pretty sure they would announce it as a feature, so I'd guess it isn't in the upcoming firmware, which is apparently delayed because of a sensor artefact at 27-30mm on the zoom. There's a thread at that horrible place about it.

Re AutoIso on the X100S, it appears to retain the minimum shutter speed selection. Shown on the Fujiguys X100S preview Video at about 7 minutes.
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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Mj on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:40 pm

A tighter crop on the writer would lose all context... please leave it as is.

There are a number of issues I find with the current crop of Fuji CSC's some of which will clearly be fixed in the next generation (based on what they are providing with the x100s and x20 I would expect the x-e2 will be better sorted).
Don't expect them to deal with this with firmware improvements... it's more likely to be used to drive us all toward upgrade.

In the meantime I intend to enjoy my x-e1 for what it it is... and for the most part use it fully manual and suffer the AF as is when I fall back to using it.
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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Matt. K on Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:43 pm

Congratulations on POTW! Well deserved. However...after looking at the image for awhile I believe the it needs to be cropped to remove the light on the right hand side, which detracts from the main subject. That, anyway, is my opinion. :D
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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Geoff M on Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:52 pm

Matt. K wrote:Congratulations on POTW! Well deserved. However...after looking at the image for awhile I believe the it needs to be cropped to remove the light on the right hand side, which detracts from the main subject. That, anyway, is my opinion. :D


Thanks Matt. OK here is a crop based on your suggestion, whats the general consensus now? Better, worse or indifferent?

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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby photohiker on Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:11 am

Too much of a heavy crop for me, prefer the original. Perhaps crop just inside the light.
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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby aim54x on Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:44 am

I would have traded some of what you have cropped off the bottom for some of the space up top. At the moment the truncation of her legs is annoying
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Postby chrisk on Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:31 pm

original for me.
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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby gstark on Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:13 pm

aim54x wrote:I would have traded some of what you have cropped off the bottom for some of the space up top. At the moment the truncation of her legs is annoying


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Re: The Gallery, The Writer and The Resturant

Postby Matt. K on Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:32 pm

A bit too much crop. Try just cutting out that right hand light but leave the rest.
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Postby Geoff M on Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:05 pm

I wanted to keep the same aspect ratio. Personally, and as already stated, I still prefer the crop of the originally posted version but It's good to explore the alternatives.
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