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ISO 3200 - Canon 5D

Postby yeocsa on Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:42 am

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Image extracted from http://www.digit.no/wip4/detail.epl?id=59456

Taken with Canon 5D at ISO 3200.

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Postby MHD on Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:26 pm

Kidding??
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Postby Raskill on Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:27 pm

No noise is good noise....
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Postby pippin88 on Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:54 pm

No noise removal tools used?

Exposure must have been nailed perfectly.
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Postby Glen on Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:55 pm

Arthur if that is real it is amazing. On the link you gave iso 50 & 3200 look the same. It was never that way on film.
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Postby petal666 on Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:22 pm

it's really hard to tell when the images have been reduced in size so much.
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Postby Aussie Dave on Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:26 pm

If it looks too good to be true....it probably is ! :roll:
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Postby Nnnnsic on Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:30 pm

I want some EXIF data if I'm to believe that.
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Postby Aussie Dave on Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:38 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:I want some EXIF data if I'm to believe that.


except even EXIF data can be edited.

I'm sure all will be revealed in due course. PS. it doesn't have WB Encryption does it ?!? :twisted:
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Postby Nnnnsic on Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:43 pm

True, but factors like aperture and shutter speed in omparing both the low ISO and the high ISO could be compared to see if it's possible or even real, and while they could certainly be faked too, it would be helpful to see. :)
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Postby Aussie Dave on Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:50 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:True, but factors like aperture and shutter speed in omparing both the low ISO and the high ISO could be compared to see if it's possible or even real, and while they could certainly be faked too, it would be helpful to see. :)


Quite possibly.....though I'm sure those people out there that just love to plant the seed of misinformation are well on top of this.

If it is true & is an indication of what is around the corner, we can only expect that almost all future cameras (by all manufacturers) will be pushing the envelope with their high ISO settings.

Can only be a good thing for digital photography :)
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Postby Killakoala on Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:56 pm

There is enough noise in the photo to assume it is indeed taken at 3200iso, but if it is true then it is mightily impressive. Now, couple the 5D with Nikon glass and there is one hell of a nice outfit.
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Postby BBJ on Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:31 pm

Cheaper than the D2x as well.LOL
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Postby dooda on Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:50 pm

Imagine taking pics at t3200 at 2.8 with VR and minimal noise, you wouldn't need a tripod anymore.
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What about this?

Postby yeocsa on Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:41 pm

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Take a close look at this one. Canon's is far ahead in the noise arena.

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Postby kipper on Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:47 pm

Yep, it's been well talked about before even with prior generation Canons.
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Postby petal666 on Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:49 pm

Once again, you can't see jack on small images.
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Re: What about this?

Postby leek on Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:51 pm

yeocsa wrote:Take a close look at this one. Canon's is far ahead in the noise arena.
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Sorry Arthur... can't seen enough detail on such a small image.. .
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Postby mitedo on Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:17 pm

One thing i did like about the canon was the 800-3200 iso range , heres a few shots i took with my 1DMKII in China a few months ago, all shots at iso 3200 hand held no flash & no tripods with a sigma 150mm f2.8 macro lens its all i had with me at the time, i shot around 250 shots on the night all were keepers, from the camrea no PP at all

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Postby yeocsa on Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:17 pm

i understand. well, the pictures are not taken by me. They are taken from a camera review website.

However, judging by the images on the various ISO, the noise level is very low and metering is dead accurate. The gap between Nikon and Canon has widen again. At this rate, Canon is far ahead of the pack. The closest competitor in the noise arena to Canon would be Fuji S3 Pro.

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Postby BBJ on Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:59 pm

Here is a link to these such pictures and reveiw.
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Postby Onyx on Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:01 pm

Arthur, I see you've defected to Canon...

There's nothing wrong with high ISO on any modern SLR camera, if exposed well and you don't clip either end of the histogram too hard (or at all), you'll end up with good workable images.

I personally don't believe noise level differences are all that pronouned between the brands - it's mostly a stereotype. Having tested the D70 and 20D side by side, D2X with 1D2, etc. the differences were far less than what I had been lead to believe, having heard Canon users sprout off the 'noisy Nikon' myth. Examples
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Postby yeocsa on Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:20 pm

i have not defect to Canon. In fact I had defected from Canon to Nikon. I was using 10D before switching to D70. I was comfortable in using ISO800 on 10D. But with D70, I stick with IS0200 most of the time.

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Postby Big V on Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:05 am

mitedo, if you have a canon 1dmk11, why are you mucking around with a nikon d70? (as per your sig line)
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Postby birddog114 on Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:18 am

Big V wrote:mitedo, if you have a canon 1dmk11, why are you mucking around with a nikon d70? (as per your sig line)


He suddenly fall in love with Nikon and ditched all his Canon stuff, now he has a handfull of Nikon gears
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Postby mitedo on Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:02 pm

Hi Big V i dont have my Canon gear anymore i have sold the lot, im not one for keeping things to long cars boats cameras and toys, life's to short for that type of thing :lol: after using a mates D2X a couple of times is what made me jump to nikon gear i like the colour from the nikon, not to sure if its the camera or the lenes but the colour works for me , i was going to get the D2X but with news of the D200 coming out i might just sit on the fence & wait to see if its ok
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Postby birddog114 on Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:09 pm

mitedo wrote:Hi Big V i dont have my Canon gear anymore i have sold the lot, im not one for keeping things to long cars boats cameras and toys, life's to short for that type of thing :lol: after using a mates D2X a couple of times is what made me jump to nikon gear i like the colour from the nikon, not to sure if its the camera or the lenes but the colour works for me , i was going to get the D2X but with news of the D200 coming out i might just sit on the fence & wait to see if its ok


Nothing from Nikon will beat the D2x atm, even with the D200, perhaps the new D3x in early or mid of 2007.
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Postby mitedo on Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:12 pm

2007 :shock: Birddog i could not wait that long :D
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Postby sirhc55 on Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:42 pm

With pics of that quality I would not have ditched the Canon :D
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Postby birddog114 on Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:47 pm

mitedo wrote:2007 :shock: Birddog i could not wait that long :D


2007 for D3x is not along way more than 12 months from now,
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Postby mitedo on Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:47 pm

A few more this time run through neat image

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Postby genji on Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:20 pm

japanese website with 5S sample image with full exif data

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Postby sejanus on Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:26 am

The d2x noise isn't necessarily "bad" up high, but it does make the image rapidly softer due to noise reduction that you cannot turn off completely. (i.e. even when off, it says it still does it - just less)

The 20d which I have I'm sure also does in camera noise reduction, but it's far ahead of the d2x. In fact when I did my first few tests, I accidentally have the 20d set to 3200 iso and was still impressed by it, thinking it was 1600 iso. The 5D has a larger sensor, and should be even better theoretically.

We have tried using the d2x at weddings at 1600/3200 iso but it's no good, although the noise is a lot more "film like" than the d2h. Frankly IMHO even 800 is marginal. Below that it's fantastic.
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Postby Miliux on Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:37 pm

Amazing shots there. Can't believe it looks sharp in ISO 3200.

I wonder what '30D' will come up in image quality (high ISO) when released in PMA next Feb.

For now, 5D is too far out of my budget. Most of my shots are in low light situations and often i use ISO800-1600 in D70. ISO1600 is unacceptable - the amount of noise is unbearable and very hard to edit.

I'll just have to sit down tight till Feb for some solid news.
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Postby Matt. K on Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:15 pm

Another example of the superiority of digital photography over analogue. Just look at the purity of colour and the lack of fuzz and grain!
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