A New toy

With everyone getting new bodies, I think that separate section for you to proudly display your first image from your new acquisition is in order.

This applies to brand new bodies, as well as bodies that are simply newly acquired by you.

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A New toy

Postby Mr Darcy on Sun May 27, 2012 12:34 am

A friend visited today and gave me a new toy to play with

While it has limitations, I am sure I am going to enjoy this.
And best of all, I think my 2x converter will work with it.

No prizes for guessing what it is:
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(And I will try to keep this effect under control in future, but I just had to do it once :))
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Re: A New toy

Postby surenj on Sun May 27, 2012 1:00 am

Mirror lens?
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Re: A New toy

Postby Sylvia on Sun May 27, 2012 1:05 am

Pin Hole of some sort?
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Re: A New toy

Postby Big V on Sun May 27, 2012 1:09 am

350mm tamron mirror lens?
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Re: A New toy

Postby the foto fanatic on Sun May 27, 2012 7:50 am

A DVD player?
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Re: A New toy

Postby Reschsmooth on Sun May 27, 2012 8:21 am

Doughnut maker? Or 500mm mirror lens
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Re: A New toy

Postby ATJ on Sun May 27, 2012 9:28 am

Cataracts?
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Re: A New toy

Postby gstark on Sun May 27, 2012 11:55 am

Whatever it is, it appears to have some sort of a focus issue. :biglaugh:

I'm in the mirror lens camp.
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Re: A New toy

Postby zafra52 on Sun May 27, 2012 12:12 pm

It quite a good technique to keep us
all in suspense. Is it a new lens, a
camara, a mirror, It’s a microscope?
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Re: A New toy

Postby sirhc55 on Sun May 27, 2012 12:14 pm

Out of focus lensbaby :D
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Re: A New toy

Postby Geoff M on Sun May 27, 2012 1:20 pm

I have no idea, but would err towards a mirror lens if pushed.
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Re: A New toy

Postby Mr Darcy on Sun May 27, 2012 1:20 pm

Reschsmooth wrote:Doughnut maker? Or 500mm mirror lens

Yes to both

gstark wrote:Whatever it is, it appears to have some sort of a focus issue

Yes I've discovered the AF is glacially slow on this beastie. Now I come to think on it, I've been to glaciers that move faster.

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I remember when these first became popular. Lots of doughnut shaped sparkles on lakes. Then the fashion changed to "creamy" bokeh and they vanished almost overnight.

However I think that if I use it as originally intended as a field use telephoto, and can control the doughnuts somehow, it will produce some stunning images.
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Re: A New toy

Postby Remorhaz on Sun May 27, 2012 2:42 pm

Lucky the D800 has AF capability to f/8 on all those centre focus points :)
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Re: A New toy

Postby Murray Foote on Sun May 27, 2012 3:23 pm

Good point, except that when Greg says the AF is slower than some glaciers he has seen (2 metres per day would be the fastest) I think he actually means it is manual focus.

I thought I posted a comment at the start of this thread. Don't know what happened to it. It will be interesting Greg to see how good you find the image quality but it should be light and portable and fun. I had access in the late 80s to a Tokina 500mm that focused close enough to double as a macro lens. I also used to have a Vivitar Series 1 600mm but sold it in the early 90s so don't know how good it would be on a modern body though nowhere near as sharp, I would assume, as a 300mm f2.8 + TC200III.
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Re: A New toy

Postby Mr Darcy on Sun May 27, 2012 6:17 pm

Murray Foote wrote: I think he actually means it is manual focus

:up:

Remorhaz wrote:Lucky the D800 has AF capability to f/8 on all those centre focus points

While it won't autofocus, the in-viewfinder focus assist lamps work on both the D800 and the D7000

Murray Foote wrote: it should be light and portable and fun.

Precisely. And it came at the right price :wink:
I am actually wondering if these might be more use now than back in the day. Then you had two degrees of freedom: Shutter and Aperture. This "lens" fixes the latter, so you only have one degree of freedom left. That made it pretty limiting. These days, you can lock aperture (by selecting this lens) and still have a reasonable amount of latitude by playing with ISO and shutter. Actually aperture is not quite fixed. The manual talks about changing effective aperture by adding ND filters. The original ND4 that comes with it is long gone though.

The post 1983 versions of this lens focused down to 1.5m and were quite an effective macro. My one is the earlier model that close focuses to 4 metres. There was an even earlier model that was f/5 but close focused to 15m - if you can call that close!
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Re: A New toy

Postby the foto fanatic on Sun May 27, 2012 8:18 pm

I used one like this back in the (film) day.

Apart from the specular highlights that form donuts, not a bad bit of kit.

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Re: A New toy

Postby Mr Darcy on Mon May 28, 2012 10:51 pm

The first real photo:
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I found I needed to up the contrast slightly and lower the metered exposure by 2.5 stops! It may just be the image, but on the other hand, the lens may just be faster than advertised. I will leave it at f/8 for now, but I may adjust the setting in the manual lens section if the issue continues. Focus was easier than I expected to set as long as you start somewhere in the right ballpark, but the DOF (about 25mm at 6m) is quite small & even slight movement leads to donuts. I think a tripod is a must. This was handheld. Also, shooting into the light is a real no-no. Not for flare which seems nonexistent, but to avoid the OOF sparkles.
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Re: A New toy

Postby aim54x on Tue May 29, 2012 12:16 am

looking good!!!
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Re: A New toy

Postby Steffen on Tue May 29, 2012 1:22 am

I guess the exposure oddity is due to the fact that the camera falls back to centre-weighted metering with non-CPU lenses. That just isn't as clever as matrix metering, and it's easy to see why it would have overexposed this particular shot.

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Re: A New toy

Postby Mr Darcy on Tue May 29, 2012 8:32 am

Steffen wrote:I guess the exposure oddity is due to the fact that the camera falls back to centre-weighted metering with non-CPU lenses.


Except the manual claims 3D metering with non CPU lenses. Still early days yet. Play and learn.

EDIT:
I rechecked the manual it said:
D7000 wrote:• Enables color matrix metering (note that it may be necessary to use centerweighted
or spot metering to achieve accurate results with some lenses, including
Reflex-NIKKOR lenses)

So it looks like you are right, but I have to select it myself.
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Re: A New toy

Postby Steffen on Tue May 29, 2012 4:28 pm

Either way, I wouldn't consider this a weakness or drawback of the lens. Once you're aware of this you can easily work around it.

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