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			 by gstark on Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:18 pm
 Christmas Is Coming
And it's time to book for our Christmas function. This year, we're eating at the In Restaurant, 99 Military road, Neutral Bay (diagonally opposite the Oaks Hotel). The date is Saturday November 25, and we have the whole restaurant booked out! Cost will be $39.50 each, and the selected menu is shown in our booking form. Given the date, we might also throw in a bit of Thanksgiving too.
ALL THINGS ORDINARY, LOOK EXTRAORDINARY Thank you to all who have already lodged their details for this. And for those who have already submitted their image, even more thanx. You all deserve a great big pat on the back for your generosity in this.
 Expressions of Interest for this have now been closed. Thank you to everyone who has submitted one; let's all go and shoot something.    Images need to be uploaded to our gallery site  no later than September 20 2006.
 A couple of important points that need to observed now: One of our members, Padey, has offered to handle all of the printing for us for this event. That is, he's going to arrange to have the printing done, and to pick up the cost of this. That is a most generous offer, Andrew, and on behalf of our community, I thank you for this. 
 Oz_Beachside was responsible for bringing this exhibition to our attention, and he (1) made contact with the organisers in order to help organise our participation, (2) handled the business end of that and forwarded all of your details to the organisers, (3) is liaising with Andrew to get the printed images from Sydney to Melbourne, (4) will be handling the the preparation of your images for display, including the mounting of them within the common, specified mount size, and (5) will be arranging for their delivery to the exhibition. 
 So to both Padey and Oz_Beachside, and on behalf of everyone here, a very big thank you for their efforts in helping us to help those who are less fortunate than we might be. 
Bargains The more observant of you will have noted that I've added a whole swag of Sigma(!) stuff to the list. Yes, you heard right. And memory cards - CF and SD - have been added as well.
 For those waiting on Canon prices, the problem, is that stock is unavailable, and thus Poon doesn't want me to push this stuff if he cannot get it for you.
 Sorry 'bout that.
Late breaking news: The Canon 400D is now available, and we have pricing and ordering for it. Just a short note on delivery times ...    People who paid for their gear on Monday of this week, already have their hardware in their hands, and are enjoying their new toys, according to the information I have at my disposal.  
 Three days, man. Three days! Last edited by gstark  on Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:18 am, edited 8 times in total.
					
				g.Gary Stark
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 by sirhc55 on Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:26 pm
 Gary - the 150mm Sigma is a f/2.8  Chris--------------------------------
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 by gstark on Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:43 pm
 Chris,
 Thanx; I'll check that with Poon: I'm using the list he sent to me with its descriptions.
 g.Gary Stark
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 by MCWB on Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:44 pm
 Also there are a few Sigma 'Marco' lenses, rather than Macro.   
			
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 by gstark on Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:47 pm
 They're from Yugoslavia!
 g.Gary Stark
 Nikon, Canon, Bronica .... stuff
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 by gstark on Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:56 pm
 MArco has now been banished frrm the pricelist, as has the fishere lens.    Thanx for pointing these out. What else have I missed?g.Gary Stark
 Nikon, Canon, Bronica .... stuff
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 by Manta on Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:03 pm
 gstark wrote:MArco has now been banished frrm the pricelist, as has the fishere lens.   Thanx for pointing these out. What else have I missed?
 More like 'What else have I got right?' by the sounds of it Gary!      You must be having one of my  kind of days!!! 
			
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 by sheepie on Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:06 pm
 *** When getting there is half the fun! *** 
			
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 by Glen on Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:09 pm
 Congrats Leon, looking forward to some of your excellent work with it 
			
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 by Alpha_7 on Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:21 pm
 I have a question, I'm still trying to find a suitable idea, or a shot I've taken previously that suits.
 Would I still need a mod el release for an recognisable faces, if I wasn't profitting from it but the money was going towards a charity? Anyone know where I stand legally in this regard ?
 Thanks,
 Craig 
			
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 by Geoff on Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:23 pm
 Unfortunately Craig, even if it's for charity I would think you still need a mod el release. 
			
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 by Nnnnsic on Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:24 pm
 Not sure if you would actually.
 If an image was taken in public domain, you probably wouldn't.
 
			
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 by MHD on Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:30 pm
 Alpha_7 wrote:I have a question, I'm still trying to find a suitable idea, or a shot I've taken previously that suits. Would I still need a mod el release for an recognisable faces, if I wasn't profitting from it but the money was going towards a charity? Anyone know where I stand legally in this regard ? Thanks, Craig
 Actually that does depend... where a mod el release is essential is where you are using the image to endorse a service or product... or where you could be seen to be defaming or depriving the mod el of income...
 If there is artistic merit to the image then you may get away with it... of course some on could alway *try* to sue you... But for example Time and National Geographic and travel mags etc etc... would not get releases for many of thier shots as they can claim Editorial content... So you could claim your image was capturing the escence of a situation and that person was part of it..
 A great example is Poon's entry... no way could he get done for that photo which is highly editorial... 
			
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 by Alpha_7 on Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:46 pm
 I was just thinking, that my Sea-captain type picture might be worthy of consideration except I didn't get the guy to sign a mod el release. He did consent to the photo and it was taken in a public place, I just didn't want to overstep the mark.  That said I'm not even sure if my Sea Captain picture mets the theme. 
			
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 by MCWB on Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:53 pm
 Craig, if you are selling a print as fine art then no mod el releases are necessary. Period. If the FHF want to use the image to promote themselves (e.g. in a brochure) then they would need a mod el release, but I would think that would be for them to worry about rather than you! 
			
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 by Nnnnsic on Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:06 pm
 This was the example I've been looking for... reference Philip Lorca Dicorcia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip-Lorca_diCorcia 
			
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 by Justin on Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:31 pm
 Are the teleconverters lenses or accessories?     I also notice there is a 2Gb CF card in the list now as well, good news!D3 | 18-200VR | 50:1.4 | 28:2.8 | 35-70 2.8 | 12-24 f4picasaweb.google.com/JustinPhotoGallery
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 by gstark on Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:43 pm
 Justin wrote:Are the teleconverters lenses or accessories?    
 I have them as accessories, I think. It's a tough call, but someone's got to make it.   I could make them teleconverters, in their own section. And I could separate the Sigma lenses from the Nikkors, if that would make things a bit easier for y'all to peruse. Please let me know. It's a fairly minor couple of things that I would need to change. I also notice there is a 2Gb CF card in the list now as well, good news!
 That's actually a SD card. It'll fit a D50 or D80, but not a D70, D200, or D2X.
 I'm waiting on those items' prices as well as those for Canon.g.Gary Stark
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 by Justin on Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:06 pm
 D3 | 18-200VR | 50:1.4 | 28:2.8 | 35-70 2.8 | 12-24 f4picasaweb.google.com/JustinPhotoGallery
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 by gstark on Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:46 pm
 
So, they're schizoid?    Seems to me as though that's right - The Nikkors are lenses, and the rest ...    Let me mull on that for an hour or 7. Everyone else?
 And I've just added CF and SD prices. 2 brands, 2 sets of prices. g.Gary Stark
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 by Geoff on Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:00 pm
 gstark wrote:And I've just added CF and SD prices. 2 brands, 2 sets of prices.
 Brilliant   
			
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 by rokkstar on Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:50 pm
 I've tried twice now and can't think of anything to put in the CV.  What has everyone else written? Matt 
			
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 by Glen on Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:56 pm
 my name is Matt and I am a pom whot takes photos    
			
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 by MCWB on Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:02 pm
 
			
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 by Glen on Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:04 pm
 
			
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 by rokkstar on Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:06 pm
 I like, use ma camera like, an extenshun or my eye, innit!! Matt 
			
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 by Glen on Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:20 pm
 
			
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 by sirhc55 on Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:22 pm
 I wear brief underdaks and just love that guy who can’t act for toffee nuts  Chris--------------------------------
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 by Nnnnsic on Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:20 am
 Web designer of x years, portrait photographer, features in the inaugural issue of Chimp.    
			
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